Match grip to traditonal

[dum-dum-soc]

I have hust changed my grip from match to tradional. I always used the grip doing jazz and other gigs but my main style was match. Can anyone give me advice or help on making the transiton smoother? I always practice rudiments, now i just have to get the snare pop I am looking for. I've slightly tilted the snare but I get fatigued quickly. Any to build strength is good to.

[dum-dum-soc]

Thanks for the breakdown harmonized. How muw of an angle do have your snare?

[harmonized]

My snare is SLIGHTLY angled away from me...I still use matched occasionally so I can't have it angled too much.

[Nikk]

Hey Harmonized,

Where have you been all my life? Will you marry me?

[harmonized]

Originally posted by Nikk:
Hey Harmonized,

Where have you been all my life? Will you marry me?

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No.

Unless you like 6' 190lb., kinda stinky men from Michigan.

On second thought, I might marry ya. We could borrow each other sweaters if we're the same size.

Nah.

[dum-dum-soc]

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Originally posted by Nikk:
Hey Harmonized,
Where have you been all my life? Will you marry me?

"No.
Unless you like 6' 190lb., kinda stinky men from Michigan.

On second thought, I might marry ya. We could borrow each other sweaters if we're the same size.

Nah."


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[FuseU1]

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<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ September 10, 2003 04:47 PM: Message edited by: FuseU1 ]</font>

[harmonized]

For traditional grip "rock" playing, I think it's important to get the Moeller technique down. It aids in getting a nice little "snap" when playing the snare.

If you already use traditional grip in your jazz playing, I am assuming you have some of the mechanics needed to execute it. Some things to perhaps adjust for playing heavier back beats:

- Open up those fingers when hitting the snare then quickly close them after the hit. This is to not pinch or smash your fingers against your drumstick.

- Grip the stick as loose as you can without dropping it. This will help eleviate tension so you can play relaxed.

- Utilize the rim for snare drum play (rimshots). More crack for a sweet back-beat.

- Use the rebound of the drum itelf. Again, saves energy..if your wrists are week from not playing traditional too much, using the rebound of the drum will help.

- Moeller technique, Moeller technique, Moeller technique and oh, Moeller technique!

For developing strength, dust off that drumpad!! Time to practice your rudiments (single, doubles, flams etc), rebound (controlling those drumsticks), and use your wrists and fingers for these exercises (I know this seems obvious, but concentrate on wrist-only singles then fingers-only singles, wrist-only doubles, then fingers-only doubles etc etc...) The exercise that can be done are endless but I think you get the idea. It's importand to get your wrist in shape for traditional.

I switched from matched to traditional also. A lot of people think that tradition is a less powerful grip. It's total bullshit. Traditional grip takes a lot more time to develop, and a lot of drummers don't want to take the time to do it RIGHT. In turn, they just dismiss it. I have every bit of power with my traditional grip as I did with my matched grip. It just took time and research and dedication. Some people want the instant gratification...drumming and music aren't like this..its a life long process and the better musicians know this.

Hope this helps a little, I wish I could just show rather than trying to explain it in text. Good luck!!

Btw, if you are into video's, get Jim Chapin's "Power, Speed and Endurance" and Weckl's "How to Develop Technique" - two great sources for traditional grip technique.

[Nicky Mas]

I got a lot better idea of how the traditioanal grip finger should be executed by watching the Art Verdi finger control videos on the www.artverdi.com Art bends his fingers over the stick. A lot of drummers keep the fingers straight over the stick.

[dum-dum-soc]

Thanks for the link, I have played all weekend using traditonal grip and my hand is sore. I guess I never used these muscles..... What is even better about this new experience is that playing this way has opened my mind up to new combinations. Only thing is, I hit myself with the stick a few times... Guess I have to rearrange my set.